Forums

Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk?
Fri 27 Aug 2010 15:35
You could do what a lot of other groups are doing and have a facebook page that runs along side this forum. It's free and it'll raise this groups profile to a lot more youngsters. Most of the bands listed on here have a facebook page including mine so why not have one for this forum group? If you're not sure how to do it I'm sure one of your more popular posters will. I haven't got a clue how to do a band page on facebook so my guitarist does it.
__________________________
Völkerstein.
RIP

Coming soon.
Snaggletooth.
The Motorhead tribute.
Fri 27 Aug 2010 15:58
Reply to Post 70282 by valjester in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? Apologies, I lowered myself momentarily to the level of a twatting troll, but I'm done.


Don't worry, your as ugly as a troll so you may as well act like one.
Post last edited by Bruno_Langley - 27/08/10 - 15:58
  • lazarus's Avatar
  • lazarus
  • Location: Kingdom of Wessex
  • Posts: 4322
Fri 27 Aug 2010 16:36
Reply to Post 70281 by Carldeacon in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? This kind of thread is killing swindonmusic.co.uk


totally.
__________________________
new Green Man Website - http://www.greenmanmusic.biz/

("the result of a bitter failed musician who gets his kicks from putting people down" - apparently!)

check out our coming events here - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feed&id=1011257204#!/pages/Green-Man-Music-Promotions/187343001292228?sk=events
Fri 27 Aug 2010 17:10
Reply to Post 70291 by lazarus in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? totally.


In the sense that there's a public discussion about its weaknesses? Or that it's not a music-related thread? Or the single troll? I'm confused.
  • lazarus's Avatar
  • lazarus
  • Location: Kingdom of Wessex
  • Posts: 4322
Fri 27 Aug 2010 17:55
Reply to Post 70295 by valjester in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? In the sense that there's a public discussion about its weaknesses? Or that it's not a music-related thread? Or the single troll? I'm confused.


yes my one word answer doesn't really help further the point. For me it's not about Facebook killing SM, all social network environments evolve and FB isn't going to go away so you have to make this site able to offer things that you can't do on FB.

For me what's killing this site is the fact that it rarely talks about music beyond the classified ads level but also the fact that trolling is on the up, I personally have found stuff that I have written on here used on other sites without my permission and the place seems to have lost any sense of musical community. It has all the usual negatives of a forum without really having any of the positives. Sorry if this seems a bit negative and I'm sure this is just a seasonal cycle and it will gradually move into more interesting territory again, but as it stands I find nothing much to draw me here anymore and I have stopped posting reviews and links to articles as it just seems more hassle than it's worth.
__________________________
new Green Man Website - http://www.greenmanmusic.biz/

("the result of a bitter failed musician who gets his kicks from putting people down" - apparently!)

check out our coming events here - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feed&id=1011257204#!/pages/Green-Man-Music-Promotions/187343001292228?sk=events
Fri 27 Aug 2010 18:17
Letting s**t comedy troll logins post all over the shop doesn't help, nor does the outdated forum software that makes it a chore to do anything, and isn't even keeping out the spam these days. It feels like its been left to die to be honest, which is a bit of a shame!
__________________________
The Jon Trowbridge Band - NEW EP OUT NOW! - http://www.jontrowbridge.com
Broken Daylight - NEW ALBUM COMING SOON! http://www.brokendaylight.com
Kova Me Badd - http://www.kovamebadd.com
Fri 27 Aug 2010 20:04
Facebook isn't killing the site, in my opinion it's a combination of the following:


  • back biting and bitching within the local music community
  • people not wanting to read the above on the forum
  • people trolling and causing conflict for no other reason than they don't have a thing to do
  • lack of time and effort on my part - fair enough, hold my hands up on that one
  • the site looks s**t and the listings is lacking, but I don't have the time or energy to put in the effort needed to make things look sharp again. Yes, it's only me.
  • being such a small community that most people just talk to see and talk to eachother at gigs/the pub anyway
  • there's very little talk about music on here any more
  • more to the point, there is even less about local music here
  • people in Swindon can't take critisism well, so nobody wants to review anything
  • etc etc...


Lets face it, a forum (and a community) is only as good as it's members. I love you all that have stuck around and I'm thankful for those who read and don't post but there are always a few that like to spoil something good (something we had two or three years ago, before the hacking this place was buzzing but we lost momentum). I've always had plans for the site but life gets in the way.

If anybody would like to take over the day to day running of the site, send me an e-mail on adam at swindonmusic dot co dot uk and we can work something out. I'm even happy to put in development time if you have ideas.

But to be clear it's a completely thankless job! Just ask Dust (or Evil Ernie) how hard it is to run a local music forum.
__________________________
Band Profiles
What's On?

@swindonmusic
Fri 27 Aug 2010 20:06
Reply to Post 70297 by JonT in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? Letting s**t comedy troll logins post all over the shop doesn't help, nor does the outdated forum software that makes it a chore to do anything, and isn't even keeping out the spam these days. It feels like its been left to die to be honest, which is a bit of a shame!


I know we've spoke before about this, the forum isn't great but the spammers aren't bots. Someone is physically signing up (i use recaptcha) and posting the messages. The only thing I could do to stop that is account verification via e-mail but that's another boundary people will use for not signing up : )
__________________________
Band Profiles
What's On?

@swindonmusic
Fri 27 Aug 2010 20:21
Reply to Post 70296 by lazarus in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? For me what's killing this site is the fact that it rarely talks about music beyond the classified ads level but also the fact that trolling is on the up, I personally have found stuff that I have written on here used on other sites without my permission and the place seems to have lost any sense of musical community. It has all the usual negatives of a forum without really having any of the positives.


I agree with this, especially the last sentance. no one really wants to sign up for a site just to argue with people over trivial things (it happens).

Reply to Post 70148 by lazarus in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? I think that there are other factors also. Forums are all very well but I think that the site needs bigger incentives to draw people in, without that you are really only left with a localised application that provides nothing that can't be done through Facebook..chat, gig promo etc. I think if this place had features, music, reviews etc it might bring more people in, but it's a time factor. This has been discussed many times so we don't need to dissect it all again.


I whole heartedly agree but it's a time issue. I've always encouraged people to contribute to the site, probably spoken to half of you at around beer 3 stage where it starts to sound like a good idea but life gets in the day.

Reply to Post 70148 by lazarus in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? As has just been pointed out it's all about supply and demand and with FB overshadowing lots of more specialised sites, to increase traffic it needs to start doing something different, something people can't get on FB and the like.


With you completely.

Reply to Post 70190 by MarkLuth in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk?
I think the Shuffle this year is an indicator of a change of the guard in Swindon, its the first time in the last few years where you can look at the weekends bill and not know at least half the bands! For good or bad, the last few years on the live circuit in Swindon (not just the Shuffle) has been a rotation of the same bands and people (me included!!). It does genuinely feel different again, theres a "who was that" atmosphere to it all. Suddenly its a list of bands that the old gits on here (again, me included!!) dont know or havent seen yet. They will be the next generation of Swindon Music forum posters, and a few years down the line they will go through the same questions and analysis that we are all doing now.
So no, I dont blame Facebook - in fact, Facebook is where this forum should be shouting to get the attention of the new young whippersnappers and bring them over here.
While Facebook lets all your friends know what your band is doing, this forum has the potential to let everyone and anyone know what your band is doing.


Sounding like a broken record now but I agree. I went to watch Young Guns at the furnace a while back and it was great to see lots of kids about (similar to the people who first enhabited this forum, Area 51, Any Day Now, Ducktape, Burried Beneath etc?), felt like there was a bit of a scene going on there again. Maybe steps need to be made to attract these and get the new blood involved.
__________________________
Band Profiles
What's On?

@swindonmusic
Tue 31 Aug 2010 13:47
Swindonmusic is finished... over...history...meeting its maker. 8 )

It's ran it's course like a dated period of flatuance.

You should recognise that it's troll's like me that keep this worthless piece of s**t going and remotely interesting fuckers. So lick my balls and suck my fucking cock you sitar loving homo sapians.
Tue 31 Aug 2010 14:05
: )
__________________________
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/LYDIATWENTY

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/CHARRCJ


WWW.PUTTYFOOT.COM


Yes...that is my new girlfriend : )

Yesterday is history and tomorrow is another day
Tue 31 Aug 2010 16:13
Reply to Post 70318 by Bruno_Langley in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? Swindonmusic is finished... over...history...meeting its maker. 8 )

It's ran it's course like a dated period of flatuance.

You should recognise that it's troll's like me that keep this worthless piece of s**t going and remotely interesting fuckers. So lick my balls and suck my fucking cock you sitar loving homo sapians.


Fuck me, you really think you have kept it interesting? I think you are mistaken in calling yourself a troll, when Terry Fuckwit would have been more apt!!
__________________________
Never ever bloody anything ever.
Tue 31 Aug 2010 17:29
What the fuck? I s**t on you any day. : @

I will dominate you, the free world and your ass. Why? Because your a*s is mine and thats the bottom line.
Tue 31 Aug 2010 21:23
Reply to Post 70323 by Bruno_Langley in Facebook Killing Swindonmusic.co.uk? What the fuck? I s**t on you any day. : @

I will dominate you, the free world and your ass. Why? Because your a*s is mine and thats the bottom line.


Oh dear. Its now turned into a gay fantasy version of the WWE.

Yes, go on, please do. Dominate me and my ass. Please. Cos the Rock says so. And you give me rock. Oh god you do.
__________________________
Never ever bloody anything ever.
  • Damien's Avatar
  • Damien
  • Location: Cricklade
  • Posts: 1617
Wed 1 Sep 2010 08:28
I still love this forum, even if it is quiet. Don't post as much these days, but usually check out the 'grapevine' daily, just to have a nose about...

I guess posting habits change. I run a Spurs chat forum too, which has about 150 registered members. Of which, about 20 post regularly (it used to be 100+ regulars). Times change, my forum offers nothing new - but the regulars love it, so I keep it going. No effort on my part (apart from the hosting fees). Like Adam, I've offered for someone else to take it over, but no-one wants to put the time and effort in, so it just "plods along"...

On the + side, it did help me get tickets for Inter V Spurs at the San Siro, whoop!

But, I digress, lol...

Change of topic (and I can't be arsed to find the right thread)... Who's at Riffs tonight?
: )