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Wed 26 Nov 2008 17:06
Reply to Post 34308 by colda in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas Nearly, although my status is rather more complex, my blood is a mix of irish and mercian which ended up in Worcestershire, but I was born in Birmingham to a banished (for the visible stage of pregnancy) daughter of a catholic family and adopted (long and weird story) by Brummies living on the Black Country side of the M5 and as such grew up as a Black Country boy (much to mum's frowns when not speaking as I 'should'). Our home town, Halesowen is also an odd place being situated on the outer borders of the Black County and is often debated as to belonging, certainly by means of it many mines and nail industry it holds a proud a rightful place in Black Country history but this is only recent and Halesowen is a big old place (bigger than Birmingham in the Doomsday Book) with lots of history and heritage, the Black Country dialect is very germanic in it's foundation and certainly different to Brummie speak. Back to me, I like to play both cards (and am indeed a Birmingham City supporter) but if I had to choose (and claiming Mercian/Irish blood was not an option) then I'm indeed a Black Country boy : )


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Wed 26 Nov 2008 19:50
Reply to Post 34306 by doza in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas
I thought we (the Hamsters From Hell),were on for the xmas no.1 in 1997, we were told to expect it to be released on whatever label Motorhead were on, not sure whether it would have been us or Motorhead recording it, but Lemmy singing one of my songs on TOTP would have been ace.
Then Princess Di snuffed it, everyone lost their sense of humour, & we heard no more.


the conspiracy surrounding diana's death develops a very interesting new angle. is it possible that the royal family were out to keep hamsters from hell from achieving xmas number 1 spot??
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Thu 27 Nov 2008 13:32
Reply to Post 34316 by earlsump in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas the conspiracy surrounding diana's death develops a very interesting new angle. is it possible that the royal family were out to keep hamsters from hell from achieving xmas number 1 spot??


I believe David Ikes latest book covers this very point.
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Thu 27 Nov 2008 13:51
Reply to Post 34174 by Nick_Leatherland in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas I'll love to do it however I'm going to be too busy at HMS Raleigh in Plymouth training. If you make one I'll buy a copy for fun. Silver Bells and Oh Come All Ye Faithful are good songs.


I ask this in all seriousness. I am interested in your stand point as a Jehovahs Witness joining the services. Traditionally Jehovahs Witness attitude has been one of "neutrality" and against the taking of life in war.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it is the Christian's duty to remain "neutral" during warfare. In countries throughout the world, many have faced imprisonment and even death for their conscientious objection to bearing arms in war. As stated below....

Historically, the Watchtower organization permitted Jehovah's Witnesses to go to war as long as they did not "kill" anyone or they sought non-combative, civilian service in place of active duty. The August 1, 1898 issue of Zion's Watch Tower claimed on page 231:

"Notice that there is no command in the Scriptures against military service. Obedience to a draft would remind us of our Lord's words, 'If any man compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.' The government may compel marching or drilling, but cannot compel you to kill the foe. You need not be a good marksman. Question. You suggested in a recent WATCH TOWER that, if drafted and in the army, we need not shoot to kill. Would such a course be right? Would it not be fraudulent? Answer. No; it would be quite right to shoot, not to kill. You forget, perhaps, our provisos, which were that we explain our conscientious scruples against war, and seek to be excused; if not excused, that we seek non-combatant positions, as nurses, etc; but if compelled to go a mile or many miles as a soldier, we still need not kill anybody."

Does this mean that if called to join in a combat situation as a submariner at war, how do you go about doing your job effectivley and fullfilling your beliefs.

As I said this is asked in good faith and is not an attack on your beliefs.
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Thu 27 Nov 2008 17:20
Reply to Post 34353 by lazarus in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas I ask this in all seriousness. I am interested in your stand point as a Jehovahs Witness joining the services. Traditionally Jehovahs Witness attitude has been one of "neutrality" and against the taking of life in war.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it is the Christian's duty to remain "neutral" during warfare. In countries throughout the world, many have faced imprisonment and even death for their conscientious objection to bearing arms in war. As stated below....

Historically, the Watchtower organization permitted Jehovah's Witnesses to go to war as long as they did not "kill" anyone or they sought non-combative, civilian service in place of active duty. The August 1, 1898 issue of Zion's Watch Tower claimed on page 231:

"Notice that there is no command in the Scriptures against military service. Obedience to a draft would remind us of our Lord's words, 'If any man compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.' The government may compel marching or drilling, but cannot compel you to kill the foe. You need not be a good marksman. Question. You suggested in a recent WATCH TOWER that, if drafted and in the army, we need not shoot to kill. Would such a course be right? Would it not be fraudulent? Answer. No; it would be quite right to shoot, not to kill. You forget, perhaps, our provisos, which were that we explain our conscientious scruples against war, and seek to be excused; if not excused, that we seek non-combatant positions, as nurses, etc; but if compelled to go a mile or many miles as a soldier, we still need not kill anybody."

Does this mean that if called to join in a combat situation as a submariner at war, how do you go about doing your job effectivley and fullfilling your beliefs.

As I said this is asked in good faith and is not an attack on your beliefs.


I'm not a Jehovah Witness, I was joking. Still a good read though! In all honesty, I'm not sure how a Jehovah Witness could do my job, as I'm training to work on a Nuclear Submarine which carries 16 Trident II D5 Nuclear Missiles each with multiple warheads (19 per missile I think). It's a pretty lethal weapon. It's the UK's Nuclear deterrent to other countries to not attack us basically, as we have 4 of these Subs which amounts to 1216 warheads and if we get attacked it would be our responsibility to retaliate, under permission of the prime minster. I don't think a Jehovah Witness would be taking this job.

A link to a page about Trident II D5 Nuclear missiles: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/d-5.htm
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Fri 28 Nov 2008 07:51
Fair enough, I did find it odd reconciling JH philosophy with modern submarine warfare!

Right back to having a go at Craven for being a miserable git.
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Fri 28 Nov 2008 12:16
Reply to Post 34379 by lazarus in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas Fair enough, I did find it odd reconciling JH philosophy with modern submarine warfare!

Right back to having a go at Craven for being a miserable git.


Seconded! ; )
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Fri 28 Nov 2008 15:21
I'm actually looking forward to Christmas. Waking up with my girlfriend and exchanging presents we've lovingly bought for eachother for the first time before going to my parents to over endulge on huge christmas dinner and matchmakers, crap tv and playing on my sisters wii.

Forget panic buying etc. just do what makes you happy
Sat 29 Nov 2008 12:57
Reply to Post 34366 by Nick_Leatherland in Oh good, it's nearly Christmas I'm training to work on a Nuclear Submarine which carries 16 Trident II D5 Nuclear Missiles each with multiple warheads (19 per missile I think). It's a pretty lethal weapon. It's the UK's Nuclear deterrent to other countries to not attack us basically, as we have 4 of these Subs which amounts to 1216 warheads and if we get attacked it would be our responsibility to retaliate


I put together a harness at work only the other week that will end up in one of these. Shit hot job I did too, even if I say so myself. ; )

Back to christmas: favourite sweet people only seem to eat during the holiday season? Terry's chocolate orange for me - xmas day wouldn't be the same without it...
Mon 1 Dec 2008 12:15
Just Brazils are rather nice!

well its the beginning of advent today...did anyone get a calender? ive not bought any this year...ooops!
Mon 1 Dec 2008 20:25
I'm a cheapskate and have got pretend advent calendars on facebook....I never bother with a real one, though wish I'd got one for my classroom. Never mind.

As for me today is December 1st which marks a VERY special date for me.....

It's the first day of "eat as much cheese as you can for a month" month : )
Mon 1 Dec 2008 20:51
This years christmas will not be a good one for me
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Mon 1 Dec 2008 21:38
I opened my calendar as soon as I woke up this morning - I ended up with the Simpsons one as Harry bagged the Ben10 one for himself.
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I didnt get an advents calendar : (
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Mon 1 Dec 2008 23:01
Looks set to be the best christmas ever : )
We're off to Venice again so Christmas day will be spent on the roof garden of the Danielli avoiding the floods!
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