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Thu 12 Jun 2008 13:37
Update:

I bought a Little big muff a few days ago ago and it sounds fantastic! Was a little bit dubius about getting it as i don't really like all out fuzz, but with a bit of tweaking it sounds top! : )
Thu 12 Jun 2008 13:43
I borrowed a friends Big Muff a while back and absolutely fell in love .... just trying to scrap together the cash to buy one of my own now!!

gives you such a great sound it blew me away !!

Also the innuendoes are rife which just adds an extra childish grin to the one already slapped across the face from the sound .... hehe muff 8 )
Thu 12 Jun 2008 13:50
I think pedals are all well and good, sometimes a bit of delay can add mood, chorus can make something sound bigger, reverb can add atmosphere. but i am totally with mike. and i know his knowledge of chords and harmonies is excellent, and having a good knowledge of the ins and outs of how to get the music that you want out of a guitar should always come before the expensive s**t you slap on top.

and i believe back there Haze you said something about the guitar being a generic or boring instrument? well im sorry but that is utter tosh. classical, or flamenco guitar is a wonderfully rich, warm and interesting sound. old jazz players like charlie christian, and django reindhart (cant spell it) could produce sounds and expressions out of the guitar that you couldnt dream of. neither could i. all with just a guitar and a little amplification. and django only had two fingers!!

True study of the instrument (i sound like a wanker, but f**k it) is always going to produce a better sound than spending lots of money on a lot of fancy pedals. turning a C chord into a swirling frenzy of wave forms and flanged out twizzles and echoes, doesnt make it anymore than a C chord. Rather than trying to find new ways of making the same chords sound weird, why not try learning some interesting chords, and thus making the music a lot more 3 dimensional? then add some carefully chosen effects to give it any extra atmosphere or p'nash that it needs. fuck, hendrix only had a fuzz and a wah, and a s**t load of volume. its the fact that played the fucking thing so damn well that made his playing sound out of this world.
Thu 12 Jun 2008 14:01
Reply to Post 19824 by Shippinnit in Guitar Pedals I think pedals are all well and good, sometimes a bit of delay can add mood, chorus can make something sound bigger, reverb can add atmosphere. but i am totally with mike. and i know his knowledge of chords and harmonies is excellent, and having a good knowledge of the ins and outs of how to get the music that you want out of a guitar should always come before the expensive s**t you slap on top.

and i believe back there Haze you said something about the guitar being a generic or boring instrument? well im sorry but that is utter tosh. classical, or flamenco guitar is a wonderfully rich, warm and interesting sound. old jazz players like charlie christian, and django reindhart (cant spell it) could produce sounds and expressions out of the guitar that you couldnt dream of. neither could i. all with just a guitar and a little amplification. and django only had two fingers!!

True study of the instrument (i sound like a wanker, but f**k it) is always going to produce a better sound than spending lots of money on a lot of fancy pedals. turning a C chord into a swirling frenzy of wave forms and flanged out twizzles and echoes, doesnt make it anymore than a C chord. Rather than trying to find new ways of making the same chords sound weird, why not try learning some interesting chords, and thus making the music a lot more 3 dimensional? then add some carefully chosen effects to give it any extra atmosphere or p'nash that it needs. fuck, hendrix only had a fuzz and a wah, and a s**t load of volume. its the fact that played the fucking thing so damn well that made his playing sound out of this world.


Totally agree mr ship, just if you get a chance to ever try out any of the fabled Muff pedles then please just for me do so !!
I own zero pedles at this present moment as none have really interested me until I met the MUFF : )
Thu 12 Jun 2008 14:16
[quote post=19825]Totally agree mr ship, just if you get a chance to ever try out any of the fabled Muff pedles then please just for me do so !!
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I've used one, its pretty nice i must say. not a big fuzz fan, but it has its uses. still no match for a nice amp, not that i can claim to have a particularly nice one. does the job. ive never found a distortion pedal that sounds nicer than a great amp. admittedly though there are some that make great amps sound better. and a big muff would be one of those. MXR do some nice pedals designed to go on top of a dirty amp. the zakk wylde (knob) pedal is actually a very nice toneful overdriver, if your doing sort of loud, hard rock stuff. bit of a cheesy tone, but it is a zakk wylde (knob) pedal. I use a boss OD-1 overdrive for a bit of crisp crunch, and that sounds ok. no good for a full time tone though. good for interludes.
Thu 12 Jun 2008 14:51
With regard to Big Muffs - I've heard some great ones, and I've heard (and used) some s**t ones... I think you have try before you buy with those.

Couldn't agree with you more Shipp ; )
Thu 12 Jun 2008 14:54
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Couldn't agree with you more Shipp ; )


you know where its at: end of your fingers, not your legs!

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Thu 12 Jun 2008 17:23
I saw John Williams play at the Royal Albert Hall a few years back. He was playing a nylon strung acoustic guitar that was amplitied via a clip on microphone. No effects what-so-ever and it sounded lush. I was almost mesmerised by his style of playing. Each finger seemed to have a mind of its own.

I do love playing through pedals though. Favourite at the moment is the Line6 distortion. Good cross section on there.
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Sat 30 Aug 2008 19:05
Reply to Post 19824 by Shippinnit in Guitar Pedals I think pedals are all well and good, sometimes a bit of delay can add mood, chorus can make something sound bigger, reverb can add atmosphere. but i am totally with mike. and i know his knowledge of chords and harmonies is excellent, and having a good knowledge of the ins and outs of how to get the music that you want out of a guitar should always come before the expensive s**t you slap on top.

and i believe back there Haze you said something about the guitar being a generic or boring instrument? well im sorry but that is utter tosh. classical, or flamenco guitar is a wonderfully rich, warm and interesting sound. old jazz players like charlie christian, and django reindhart (cant spell it) could produce sounds and expressions out of the guitar that you couldnt dream of. neither could i. all with just a guitar and a little amplification. and django only had two fingers!!

True study of the instrument (i sound like a wanker, but f**k it) is always going to produce a better sound than spending lots of money on a lot of fancy pedals. turning a C chord into a swirling frenzy of wave forms and flanged out twizzles and echoes, doesnt make it anymore than a C chord. Rather than trying to find new ways of making the same chords sound weird, why not try learning some interesting chords, and thus making the music a lot more 3 dimensional? then add some carefully chosen effects to give it any extra atmosphere or p'nash that it needs. fuck, hendrix only had a fuzz and a wah, and a s**t load of volume. its the fact that played the fucking thing so damn well that made his playing sound out of this world.


i've always said an electric guitar is a horrible sounding instrument. if you don't go through an amp and plug straight into a mixer, you'd hear what a guitar really sounds like, guitar amps are big glorified effects units in themselves. but obviously, the compression/overdrive from turning up, a massive high frequency cut off at around 5kHz, EQ, maybe tremolo or spring reverb doesn't count because none of it is on the floor in front of you... 8 )

no matter how subtlely or how extreme you go, if you are using effects, then you are using effects. hendrix was a great player, but how he used effects was what made him even greater, he didn't hold back from using them either, embraced what was available to him at the time.

and please appreciate my use of effects and pedals has sod all to do with guitar, the vast majority of effects i use are freely available. i think i'd rather take the hendrix approach and make the most of what is out there, rather than just conform to that annoying guitarist attitude which is smoothered in irony. christ, even classical musicians utilise electronics.

the sounds you use are just as important as the notes/chords/harmonies as at the end of the day, music is sound.
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Sat 30 Aug 2008 20:56
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no matter how subtlely or how extreme you go, if you are using effects, then you are using effects. hendrix was a great player, but how he used effects was what made him even greater, he didn't hold back from using them either, embraced what was available to him at the time.



the sounds you use are just as important as the notes/chords/harmonies as at the end of the day, music is sound.




i hear you there man.
Sat 3 Jan 2009 12:59
could anybody recommend a decent quality reasonably priced loop pedal?
i've been looking at the Boss RC-2... http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=EG01801

or even better has anyone got one they wanna get rid of? i've got a fist full of fivers!!
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Sat 3 Jan 2009 13:19
The Akai Headrush has never let me down - a lovely delay pedal with some good looping functionality - £100 or thereabouts (probably less now).
Sat 3 Jan 2009 13:56
Reply to Post 36527 by Lukeandthecapris in Guitar Pedals could anybody recommend a decent quality reasonably priced loop pedal?
i've been looking at the Boss RC-2... http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=EG01801

or even better has anyone got one they wanna get rid of? i've got a fist full of fivers!!


I've been looking at them recently too.

Couldn't find a EHX Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai (SMMH) for love nor money around here, so not tried one yet. A friend uses an RC-50 to outstanding effect, but they are expensive and fairly complex - I'd love one, but too pricey.

I plumped for an RC-2 because I found one for a good price (in fact just this minute paid for it, gotta wait for it to come now) - I'll let you know how I get on
Sat 3 Jan 2009 20:48
cheers for the help fella's.. i'm very much a beginner with pedals etc so i'll probably go for the cheaper option. and if u cud let me know how u get on that'll be great..

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